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    Posted: 18 Apr 2014 at 17:13
Appreciate it's down to each specific bike as opposed to a manufacturer however does anyone else get the to the point when they think fook it , I'll buy a Honda or yam ?

I've had my 2006 rsvr for 4 yrs now and love it, however ...... The reliability is at the point where it's putting me off biking in general .

After 18 mths the fuel pump died , after finally being diagnosed by an aprilia dealer screwed to the tune of nearly £900. Fixed and ran beautifully. Stored for 5 mths due to work, went out to the garage to find the suspension wishbone had disintegrated and the arse collapsed. Ok- put it in and had it replaced , took the opportunity to giver her a treat with rear sets, carbon hooked air box, hid's , some carbon trim , titanium cans, power commander and some other bits and bobs, only managed 500 miles over the winter. Took her out the other day and it's now a bitch to start and have a gut feeling the sprang clutch is on its way out.

At the tipping now where I'm considering breaking and buying something else.
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I'm sure there are a few around who think like that (for any marque,and I include the Japs here)

I've got an Ape and a Suzuki both the same age and the only things that have gone wrong with either is they both needed the clutch slave replacing.

The SV stranded me in France and I had to have a new one couriered over from the UK,the Ape I noticed and just replaced the seal.

The trouble I think is that most people are used to basically having a small car engine in a bike where they can do as little maintenance as possible and it will still run,Italian products as a rule don't work like that.

Especially dry sumped,non decompressor equipped Aprilias,so they can tend to not get the TLC they need.

Can't understand about a disintegrating dogbone though,unless you'd washed it in acid that's a new one on me.
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Lack of maintenance on the dreaded needle roller bearings Ian. Seen it before when the bearings are so dry (if not seized) and the suspension can't move properly, something has to give, usually the dog bone around the bearing or the other little bastard things............I'm sure you can guess what  Confused
 
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Well. Can only go by my own experiences, but I've only owned Jap bikes prior to the Aprilia. The Jap bikes were generally reliable, but not trouble free, e.g a ZX9R which blew a head gasket at 18k, a 02 R1 that lunched its gearbox at 13k, a Suzuki GSXR1100 that started smoking at 50k. So, the Aprilia the first Italian bike I've owned. Bought it in 06 (06 reg but 4 months old) and has now 69.000 on it. Its let me down once when the brown connector split at 40k shorting out the alternator. Apart from that, its been totally reliable.
I think a lot depends on prevous owners.
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Thing is I I'm mechanically sympathetic and look after my bikes and cars . I also have a ur Quattro turbo that I've rebuilt ( amongst other previous car and bike projects ) therefore appreciate preventative maintence is required to reduce reactive maintence .
The dog bone was on its way out I assume so I guess I'm lucky it collapsed whilst parked up and not on track / on the road
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Originally posted by SPOOKY SPOOKY wrote:

Lack of maintenance on the dreaded needle roller bearings Ian. Seen it before when the bearings are so dry (if not seized) and the suspension can't move properly, something has to give, usually the dog bone around the bearing or the other little bastard things............I'm sure you can guess what  Confused
 
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Yup,I can guess

I find it hard to understand that anyone could let them get to that state though,whatever happened to preventative maintenance?

I wouldn't,I know for sure you wouldn't,I guess some people maybe just trust cowboy dealers Dead

Just as well it's part of the AP full service regime Clap
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Very little grease in them new from Giovanni at the factory, ride in sh*te weather, clean with a pressure washer all has an effect................normally a negative one.
 
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Owned mine for 9 years now & it's never let me down & nothing has ever gone wrong with it but mine gets a full service every year even though it only does about 3k miles a year.

If you think these are unreliable try having a 25 year old 2 stroke that's tuned to within an inch of its life, its like riding a hand grenade, never know when its gonna go bang LOL


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The dogbone WILL give trouble if it's not maintained.
I've serviced mine twice, and it's been as good as gold.
However...
Failures to date on my imaculately maintained tuono r 2006.
Stator
leaking valve cover
fork seals x 3 sets!
Clocks x2
Front wheelbearings
rear wheelbearings
headrace bearings
brown connectors melted
ecu (expensive bastid)
Hose clips
clutch slave cyl
rivnuts under seat failed
steering damper
other than the above, it's been more or less 100%...lol
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Anything mechanical needs love and money. Preventative is better than reactive, as said. But even then, sh*t happens. Stick with it.
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Originally posted by tapmyhed tapmyhed wrote:

Anything mechanical needs love and money. 
 
I have to agree, and we've had all winter to get things in shape.
My bikes get a good service and going over before parking up for winter, and while parked, regular start ups to operating temp, spin the wheels, pump the suspension, battery optimizer always on.
Then I know nothing will seize during the break and the bike will start when I want it to, then a good check over in the spring, tyre pressures, chain lub, push the brake pads back and pump them out again etc.
 
 
Nobody said it would be easy.
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My wife is a robot.......costs me a bomb.......
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She needs her pads pushing back...let me tell you.
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Perhaps she needs some attention with a new piston being pushed by a larger bore cylinder? Wink

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Sounds like a nail and a fat bloke?????
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Ive always had jap bikes to date, apart from the superduke because when i go to the shed i want it to start, the reason i bought the rsv was i wanted a second bike and a twin , if it needs anything or wont start i can use the other , i spent alot off money on it over winter and did all the work myself which was the idea anyhow , so far since october ive put a thousand miles on the rsv and it hasnt missed a beat , when i jump on it after the zzr it feels like the engines broke but i love the thing .
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