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    Posted: 11 Jul 2016 at 11:24
Hi All 

Just another question on the above 
I know its an ongoing headache if you own an ape but i dont have a very strong left hand due to torn tendons when i was younger which means having to hold the clutch in constantly at traffic lights etc seriously limits my riding.

New O-ring fitted and larger needle jet fitted as per Griffs advice but neutral still evades me.
Is there anything more that i can try or do i just buy a Suzuki
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I know it's not a fix but I have problems too and I find going down from 2nd to neutral only takes the slightest tap. If you go into 1st snick back upto 2nd and try again. After a while it just becomes normal.
I started out with nothing and I've still got most of it left
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Originally posted by badapple badapple wrote:

I know it's not a fix but I have problems too and I find going down from 2nd to neutral only takes the slightest tap. If you go into 1st snick back upto 2nd and try again. After a while it just becomes normal.

Lost count how many times i have gone up and down first second first second by the time i find neutral the lights have gone green  
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Do you have a standard slave?

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Originally posted by Sabre Sabre wrote:

Do you have a standard slave?

Yeah standard slave just tried changing the oring before spending money on an aberon etc
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I find giving it a tap from 2nd with my heel is the most consistant. Might be worth a try. There is no absolute fix. Either your Aprilia likes neutral or doesn't. As a silver lining, you are less likely to hit neutral accidentally from 1st to 2nd when taking off from the lights.
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Originally posted by drwizz drwizz wrote:

Originally posted by Sabre Sabre wrote:

Do you have a standard slave?

Yeah standard slave just tried changing the oring before spending money on an aberon etc

I found that when I swapped for an aftermarket slave the lever became slightly easier to pull but neutral became a bastid to find. I swapped back and now I can find neutral in my bare feet.

Make sure the clutch is bled properly. I fitted a bleed nipple to my lever housing. Pennys from HEL brake lines. Make bleeding so much easier. 

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Ya asked the n.a.d.b. they might know of something
ive just got my first vtwin and i think i got the right one
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Originally posted by Rybes Rybes wrote:

Ya asked the n.a.d.b. they might know of something

n.a.d.b ?
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NABD - National Association for Bikers with a Diasability

Run by Rick Hulse (And others) a sound guy!
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Yeah them. They got or know of alsorts of goodies to help people out
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Do it before you come to a stand still is easiest I think
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Originally posted by drwizz drwizz wrote:

Lost count how many times i have gone up and down first second first second by the time i find neutral the lights have gone green  


This. Absolutely this

YOU CAN MAKE THE CORNER.
DO NOT SLOW DOWN.
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As your coming to a stop with closed throttle in second when speed matches tick over slips into neutral without clutch with practice. Take it your already clutchless shifting.
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Originally posted by Prsv Prsv wrote:

As your coming to a stop with closed throttle in second when speed matches tick over slips into neutral without clutch with practice. Take it your already clutchless shifting.

Clutchless shifting now thats a scary idea "i aint clunk and go since i rode a step through"

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Clutch to start in first then clutchless upshift mine when not fast riding, shut throttle split second. down shift more tricky but can be done.
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Relieved to see I'm not the only one who practices clutchless downshifts Big smile

I started doing it on a continental tour riding my SV thou when it blew the clutch seal near Le Mans,I had it down to a fine art by the time we reached Perpignon.

When you get it right it's absolutely seamless,not quite as easy on the Rotax but very satisfying all the same.

I have to confess that although I upshift sans clutch on track I find it too hectic to downshift,especially when going down more than one gear at a time.


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