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    Posted: 04 Apr 2022 at 12:01
Not sure how many of you watch MotoGP, but hopefully some of you will have been as delighted as I was to cheer Aleix Espargaró to his, and Aprilia's, first MotoGP win. Even the ever-flaky Vignales managed a 5th place.

The Aprilia does look pretty strong this year - a 4th place at Qatar was only 2.2second off the winner. Indonesia was so wet it's not really a good measure of anything other than who has the biggest cojones, so a 9th wasn't too bad.

My take on the season, as a non-racer, with no real knowledge, is that Yamaha need to get their act together pretty quickly if they want to retain Quartarero - I could see him taking a factory Ducati (Miller has to be under pressure to retain a seat) or Honda (time to cut Marquez loose I reckon) seat.

Aprilia do need to look to the future and pick up a Darryn Binder or a Marco Bezzecchi to pair with Aspargaro - Vignales is too over-sensitive to ever get anywhere meaningful.
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I’m a regular watcher and agree with everything you’ve said…it’s taken Aprilia a very long time to get to the top step and they and Aleix totally deserve it. The Argentina track does seem to level the playing field though for some reason and it’s a hard one to predict a result there, unlike Texas and Sachsenring where Marquez dominated nearly every year pre injury. Hopefully Aprilia can do it again this season.
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Religiously watch MGP, F1 hater,

mrs was in her official Aprilia Team shirt really really please i was in the stands at the stone when he got 3rd and i was giddy when he pulled that move on our aussi mate,
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mutts nuts Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Apr 2022 at 21:48
Agreed ,
Fantastic result  for aleix and aprilia, 
I watched the podium at Silverstone last year 
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are all episodes up?
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I watched  the lot this week it's the full season 
Silverstone was great , they are a passionate bunch 
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A long time coming...what a great race!
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Another great race for Espargaró in Spain, with a third place. And another waste of fuel and tyres for Vignales with a typically hopeless performance.

I wonder whether Dovi regrets not going for the seat at Aprilia, as he was able to ride it a lot better than he can the Yamaha?
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Suzuki calling it a day end of 2022 

Mir and Rins need a job and perhaps Zarco and Miller too. Vinales will most likely be dropped and all of those will be prepared to take what they can after that dropped bombshell at start of the season. 

Other thing that may happen is there is now a satellite team place for another manufacturer. Aprilia being mentioned in many circles to fill that void. 
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Suzuki leaving is a real shame - their bike looks good this year and Rins had an amazing performance in Portugal.

Dorna need to do something to keep them and attract other manufacturers - we already have so many Ducatis on the grid that it's starting to look like a one-make series on occassion.
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i think suzuki is in serious debt, so far infact that going racing at the top level must be the furthest thing from there mind, i think in the I4 game it must be BMW that took all of the gixxxzzer boys custom.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rich Simpson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2022 at 21:47
Just caught up with it

 Espargaró 2nd in world championship, and only7 points behind!
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Another third place for Espargar, and nowhere for Vinales. Espargaró is now only 4 points off the lead of the championship!
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i think mav needs to go softly into the night.
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Originally posted by JimmyV4 JimmyV4 wrote:

i think suzuki is in serious debt, so far infact that going racing at the top level must be the furthest thing from there mind, i think in the I4 game it must be BMW that took all of the gixxxzzer boys custom.

Not sure where that info came from as I just looked and Suzuki’s debt is not that bad. Much lower now than 5 or 6 years ago and their assets have risen sharply reducing their debt to equity ratio to the level it has been generally in recent history. 

Their withdrawal has much to do with their lack of belief that racing success translates into sales. Based on the fact their only real super sports bike is out dated and 90% ( guess ) of global bike sales are not sports bikes. 

Aprilia’s rise has much to do with concessions to low performing factories, re testing and in season changes. KTM rose similarly until they had success and lost concessions and now they have slipped back to mid pack. The test for Aprilia will be whether they can sustain the level when they have to play by the same rules as the rest. Historically Aprilia have put all of their eggs in the no1 rider basket and n2 gets the cast offs so Mav may not be playing with the same toys as Espo. 
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Originally posted by Spoonz Spoonz wrote:

Originally posted by JimmyV4 JimmyV4 wrote:

i think suzuki is in serious debt, so far infact that going racing at the top level must be the furthest thing from there mind, i think in the I4 game it must be BMW that took all of the gixxxzzer boys custom.

Not sure where that info came from as I just looked and Suzuki’s debt is not that bad. Much lower now than 5 or 6 years ago and their assets have risen sharply reducing their debt to equity ratio to the level it has been generally in recent history. 

Their withdrawal has much to do with their lack of belief that racing success translates into sales. Based on the fact their only real super sports bike is out dated and 90% ( guess ) of global bike sales are not sports bikes. 

Aprilia’s rise has much to do with concessions to low performing factories, re testing and in season changes. KTM rose similarly until they had success and lost concessions and now they have slipped back to mid pack. The test for Aprilia will be whether they can sustain the level when they have to play by the same rules as the rest. Historically Aprilia have put all of their eggs in the no1 rider basket and n2 gets the cast offs so Mav may not be playing with the same toys as Espo. 

i think its a lot worse than that, im not an expert on the subject but im pretty sure they have withdrawn from the US market all together, again i don't know, just what pops up on google.
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Originally posted by JimmyV4 JimmyV4 wrote:


i think its a lot worse than that, im not an expert on the subject but im pretty sure they have withdrawn from the US market all together, again i don't know, just what pops up on google.

Suzuki have stopped selling cars in the US nearly 10 years ago I believe. They only produce small hatchbacks and little jeeps which have never gained traction in the US market.  Bikes are not affected, it’s their biggest market outside of Asia. PSA don’t sell their either.

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2021-09-30$17.04B$18.97B0.90
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2020-06-30$16.81B$16.62B1.01
2019-06-30$14.67B$15.62B0.94
2018-06-30$15.63B$15.14B1.03
2017-06-30$15.35B$13.25B1.16
2016-06-30$14.68B$10.54B1.39
2016-03-31$13.44B$10.54B1.28
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The good news is that they've resigned Espargaró for the next two years. The bad news is that they've also signed Vignales for another two years - what a waste of a bike.

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There will be an Aprilia satellite team next year - the WithU team are moving from Yamaha to Aprilia. They currently have Dovi and Darren Binder riding for them, but haven't confirmed riders for next year. Binder wouldn't be a bad rider to keep.
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I just saw Espagaro snatch defeat from the jaws of victory (well second place, anyway).

Poor guy must have wanted the ground to open up beneath him.

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Originally posted by Rich Simpson Rich Simpson wrote:

I just saw Espagaro snatch defeat from the jaws of victory (well second place, anyway).

Poor guy must have wanted the ground to open up beneath him.



Such a shame , and he was clearly devastated. But, that aside, another really strong performance from him.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rich Simpson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 2022 at 09:42
It shows what he and the bike are capable of.
Up to that point, he'd ridden a good race. He's not the first to make that mistake, and he won't be the last.
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If you can find a broadcast of today's MotoGP, I thoroughly recommend watching it - probably one of the best races I've ever seen.
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