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wilko 
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 Topic: Help me compare this to a 'Racing' please!Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 08:35 |
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Hi all
This has come up for sale and its near me. I've been looking for a decent Tuono (or possibly 1st gen RSV) for some time now. So whats the deal with 'Collectors' no. 139 of 200. It looks very similar spec to a Racing. Does anyone have more info on these please? Trying to work out what I would value it at Thanks in advance, Wilko
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wilko
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 08:36 |
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ps stubby exhaust looks awful but the original system comes with it
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 08:39 |
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Monday morning blues - a link would help...
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 08:49 |
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I'm thinking between 3 to 3.5?
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 08:57 |
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They are rare, don't come up too often, I'm sure someone here will tell you the exact differences between one of these and a 2003-2005 factory tuono. Different carbon and gold frame and Swing arm not on the factory, as regards oz wheels and ohlins suspension I'd imagine they are the same as on the factory.
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Road Racing Ireland, Do It Between The Hedges
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 09:38 |
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Limited number made
Ohlins all round, same spec as 01/02 rsvr Carbon/kelvar bodywork Number stamped Oz wheels Different colour/texture seats Different colour frame |
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Stevex
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 10:16 |
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Limited edition released prior to the Racing. If you look on AF1 site under Gen 1 Tuono forum there's a register data base of this model by top yoke number.
Think there were only 200 made. There's been one of these on fleabag for months, don't know why it's not sold. |
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People say I don't know Jack Sh1t; but I do, he lives next door.
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wilko
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 10:30 |
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Thanks all so far. Yeah I saw that one Steve, a trader, 20000 miles and priced at 3799. The one I linked to is 4000 or best offer, 10500 miles. I'm thinking if the 3799 trader one hasn't sold, the new one listed at 4000 is probably over-priced?
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Stevex
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 17:44 |
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Well, they are rare, and the spec is lovely, but to me they look a bit bland compared with the Racing or the Factory.
An extra £200 for a bike with half the mileage is the way I'd go; that stubby with the small bore link pipe can't do performance any favours.
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 18:19 |
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wilko
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 18:26 |
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I know what you mean, but I prefer a more stealthy look so it suits my tastes (apart from the exhaust!). I've messaged him with a load of questions, just waiting on a reply
It was listed on the AF1 RSV'R Tuono Register (no 139) and looks like it was sold to him on eBay about 2 years ago |
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 18:56 |
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The 2002 R was the first Tuono ever made, 200 worldwide. I think they cost about £11,000 back in 2002, as people have already mentioned, carbon and carbon/kevlar panels, black plastic seats and a spare set of "Kevlar" seats (there was also a black suede seat as an optional extra but I've never seen one in the flesh), matt black paintwork, black subframe/footrest hangers/front fairing frame, bronze anodized OZ wheels, Ohlins forks/shock/steering damper and something the Racing/Factory didn't get, a Stainless Steel oil tank. The same as a Racing/Factory but without the shell-suit paint job
 .They look good in the flesh.
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 19:11 |
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Great information thank you very much! Still waiting for a reply from him, sent my message at about 9:30 this morning
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 19:17 |
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Not quite the same as a racing as it has axial forks and calipers where the racing is radial.
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 19:19 |
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True indeed, and did the Racing get the 2003 close ratio gearbox, as it won't have that either?
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 19:22 |
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Possibly, jollygiant could answer that for you.
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 20:11 |
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Yes different forks. "There are only two gear sets offered for V60 Rotax engines in aprilias. 98-02 Mille and 02-03 standard Tuono had the same early, wide ratio gear set. 03 Mille and all 04 and on RSVR, 03 Tuono Racing, and all 04-05 Tuono all had the NG (new gear) close ratio gear set. The only common ratio to both is fourth gear. First thru third are taller, fifth and sixth are shorter." I'm guessing the 2002 "R" had the wide ratio box.
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 20:14 |
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Seems logical!
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 20:48 |
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FTM, never knew that! I have an '05 Tuono (06 reg) and the previous owner went 15/42...wondering now if that's overkill. How much of a difference are the ratios?
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 21:24 |
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Had a reply now and he's posted a few extra pictures on eBay of a few scrapes. Looks like it's toppled over and exhaust damaged the swing arm a bit, like a lot of RSVs. Also a scrape on a fork leg but not the stanchion. Only 4 services in the book, would probably have to budget for valve clearances and fork service
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This from the same source. Original WR
1st - 14/35 (2.5) 2nd - 16/28 (1.75) 3rd - 19/26 (1.368) 4th - 22/24 (1.091) 5th - 23/22 (0.956) 6th - 27/23 (0.852) NG 1st - 15/34 (2.27) 2nd - 19/31 (1.63) 3rd - 20/26 (1.3) 4th - 22/24 (1.091) 5th - 25/24 (0.96) 6th - 26/23 (0.884) |
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Posted: 04 Feb 2017 at 12:26 |
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There are 3 "R's" for sale on www.mobile.de in Germany. Priced at € 7,000 € 7,500 and € 10,000 respectively. It makes £4,000 look cheap.
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Posted: 04 Feb 2017 at 12:42 |
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That's why a lot of the best bikes are going to Europe because the euro is strong against the £. |
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