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Is it worth getting the full complement ones or will either of the other ones do?
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Originally posted by Si600 Si600 wrote:

Is it worth getting the full complement ones or will either of the other ones do?
 
I personally wouldn't go for the cheapo ones but I've ran the named bearing in mine for nearly 3 years without any problems. I had both bearing in my hand a couple of weeks ago at Simply Bearings and there is a marked difference between budget and named. If you think how little movement goes through these bearing there's plenty of support from the caged ones. One last thing though, and it's been said before, don't use the Aprilia dust seal they are sh*te and have a very little lip to seal on the piston pin hence why water and crap find their way past and into the bearing. Use a Nitrile R21 / SC seal 18 x 24 x 3.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pieman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2013 at 23:29
31 rollers in the aprilia bearings I just took out. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pieman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2013 at 21:36
grrr, the first bearing in the dogbone came out easy using the vice. Second one would not budge. Tried heating it, hitting it with a big hammer, nothing. Took it to work with the intention that I would stop off at an industrial estate on the way home and see if anyone could help.

At work I was on the phone to the engineering supervisor.................

Then I remembered, we have a large engineering department at the garage I just moved to, there was no facilities at my old garage!! The new one is a major facility, they do repairs, mot's and overhauls on buses, so I took it down there and sorted.

Now the only one left to take out is the one attached to the bike. This one looks in the best condition of all the bearings I took out, but I'm not sure this will be so easy to sort if I start it then get stuck half way!!!! Wish me luck!! It needs to come out as I'm sure there's play that doesn't need to be there and I know my suspension will feel better when I've replaced them all even if it's just a placebo effect. Needless to say I think I will need to take the back wheel off too just to move the chain out of the way and give better access. Incidentally, a bit of threaded rod the right size and some washers and nuts added to the sockets should make quite a nice extractor for use in a situation like this if it doesn't want to budge- apparently......
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Good luck pm, hopefully you'll get less hassle from this one.
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Are the bearing and seal sizes quoted at the top of this post good for Gen2 bikes as well? Also, I have a exhaust pipe in front of the lower dogbone bolt, is it easy to move by loosening or does the
whole exhaust have to come off?

No wonder these things don't get looked at
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote davidrsurfer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jul 2013 at 09:32
Not sure about the bearing sizes but I ended up taking the collector & front downpipe off to get that bleedin bolt out. I think somebody on here reversed it to make it easier next time.
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Dumb question time, folks.

There are four mounting points (shock, swingarm, dogbone front and dogbone rear) but seems like there are bearings in just three of those points (6 bearings= 3x pairs). Where is there no bearings and why? The shock bottom?

I have this job to do as well as the rest of my great 2014 tear-down. With the rear suspension unloaded, you can hop the rear wheel up and down about half an inch :/
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No bearings on the bottom shock as there's a bush in the eyelet instead. Your quite right 6 bearings, two in each of the other points. I don't know what bearings you have to replace the originals with, whether Aprilia or after market ones but please don't use the Aprilia seals, they are sh*te with an extremely small lip, it's no wonder why so much water and crap get past them.

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Originally posted by SPOOKY SPOOKY wrote:

No bearings on the bottom shock as there's a bush in the eyelet instead. Your quite right 6 bearings, two in each of the other points. I don't know what bearings you have to replace the originals with, whether Aprilia or after market ones but please don't use the Aprilia seals, they are sh*te with an extremely small lip, it's no wonder why so much water and crap get past them.

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Thanks SPOOKY

Top advice. I have ordered the bearings and seals from Simply Bearings. I decided to try their middle of the road offering as it seems fairly easy to stay on top of the maintenance.
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I installed the dogbone the other way around. So the wear is on the dogbone at the frame mount. Does it matter which way the dogbone is installed?
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Thats a definite chunk of web gone missing there, needs checking..
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Originally posted by Si600 Si600 wrote:

Nice write up. Thumbs Up I found that loosening everything first before removing the bolts stops the linkage flapping about if you take the dogbone bolt out first.  I found this out the hard way BTW
 
Have you already removed the dogbone in the second picture?  How hard is it to get to the back of the gearbox to undo the bolt?
 
Not wishing to worry you, but picture 6 looks like part of the swingarm pivot has snapped off!

I does look as though a chunk is missing - that needs investigating before riding the thing...
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This is a spare swingarm I have and the one on my bikes identical.
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I still have this to do on my Tuono but when I get round to doing it I intend fitting caged bearings not those half ar*ed full compliment ones and also grease nipples.

One further mod will be decent garter seals fitted reversed so it allows grease out against the rubbing faces but keeps water out Wink

Pity Aprilia never employed any engineers,but I suppose it kept the accountants happier




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