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Getting the bike from the bike shot to the garage(2 min ride) i noticed that fiding the neutral was a lot easier, even on stand still i was able to get neutral from first click with no issues. I guess changing to Castrol was right decision.
Collector mod..... well the sound of the bike is different, no sure if it is the repacked can or the bypass pipes, but it does sond different - like the rpms are higher. I even tried to get them dow a little, because i was thinking that they went up because of the mod, but even at about 1200rpm, it was sounding different and not like V-twin chopper as before.
As of the power - it is cold here and so short ride cannot tell much, but at least i did not noticed any hesitations or holes in the power delivery, keeping in mind that i have not installed the FR200 yet.

I am  hoping for better weather, so i can do a real test run.
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collector mod quietens the exhaust for sure 

did you only get the front mod done on the collector , that’s ok for low down power but get the rear one to help with higher rpm they work together 


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As far as i read, the front pipe(longer one) is dealing with the mid range, while the rear one is helping the low end. There was a post from Gabro saying that the bigger the pipe(front one) the bigger effect it has on the mid range, but in trade of low end and high end power.
Yes i made both pipes, but the front is using pipe 50mm, while rear one is 40mm ID elbow.
The picture was done before the rear one was done(the guy was searching for stainless steel elbow in the local shops).

I am not after perfect set up and max power in all the revs, but smooth powe deliveri with no lags in the power. Also i needed the mod, because of my open air box and twin velocity stacks....with those i need the fueling of FR200 eprom, but i cannot use it without the collector mod.
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this is what the pipes do

the different diameters will have an effect on that 

i have been selling modded collectors since 2009 

you will see approx 10bhp in the midrange restoring the flat spot 





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Originally posted by redratbike redratbike wrote:


i have been selling modded collectors since 2009 


I know, iread most of your post on the topic Tongue


I have the original Titanium EVO can, but i cant stop my mind thinking of putting something extremly short like SC/Austin Racing or similar Evil Smile

I know that the rsv does not like the stubby cans, but the collector mod make it possible to use such can with little power losses.
I actually got some Akra GP can from 2022 GSXR, but it was not straight fit, so i decided to sell it and use the money for servicing the bike.....but it would have been good to be able to hear the Mille with it.




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although a modded collector does help with a short can you’ll still owe power over a long can 

but it’s your bike your rules 


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If it is the same power curve(no dips and lags), but some ponnies down i will be ok
it may even help me be more brave with the throttle on the track Big smile

but the short can will be just for fun...i will like to hear it, but i am not fan of loud pipes and even the Ti EVO is little loud for my taste

btw i weighted the Ti  EVO can, it is 2,727kg,  about the same weight with the Akrapovic can with stainless steel link pipe, which is pretty good...still the Akra GP can on the photos is only 762gr Shocked
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Got some time last evening to work on the bike.

FR200 now installed

FR100 was quite hard to get out and i bent a couple of the eprom legs doing so, but i guess i can bend them back in position if i need it in the futuer(i hope not).
First ignition on i did not hear the fuel pump prime....tried second time and again no sound Cry
Then hit the starter for a second and after that i could hear the pump prime.....what a relief.

After the eprom, i replaced the intake boot with the older stype one.

I made a couple of seals for it from 5mm race seat foam








Whis everything in place i took the bike outside and started it.
It started easy, as usual. The engine was sounding smooth. But it was very cold for test ride, about 2.5'C so i let it warm up and the take the bike back to garage, waiting for better weather.

When i took my bike from the bike garage, where they did the service, the guy told me that my front pads will need replacing.
I got a set of Accossato ZXC pads sitting in my basement, but they are for one disc only.
I checked with the guy and he told me that i can use different brand for the other set as soon as i put the same brand(compound) on the same disc. I also found that SBS advise the same - to use different compound ot the two disc to modulate the stopping performance as initial bite, feel and stopping power.
So i ordered a set of EBC HH pads for the other disc. They should arrive this week.

However, since the Mille got 4 pads per caliper, i may go for 2 EBC pads + 2 Accossato pads per caliper, but just keep two opposite pads from the same brand .
Thinking of putting the EBCs as first - the one on the bottom of the caliper, so that they hit the disc first and work on lower temps, while the  Accossato work at higher temps and will be working on the already heated disc from the EBCs- the ZXC is "race use only" compound ......does that make sence?


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I'd stick to one type per side: wear rates may differ and particles from one type of pad may contaminate the other.

EBC HH pads appear to have caused the EBC discs on my KTM to warp...no such trouble since switching to the resin-based black EBC pads (but they are 'not for track use')
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Originally posted by Rich Simpson Rich Simpson wrote:

I'd stick to one type per side: wear rates may differ and particles from one type of pad may contaminate the other.



good point!

my current pads are EBC HH(the ones i bought the bike with) and i have not noticed any issues


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Last Saturday was bike season opening so i got the bike out.
I haven't riddent it since the collector mod, FR200 eprom and the bigger air boot and was really interested to see what difference those made.
Firing the bike and getting first meters on it, i was just able to hear the different tone of the exhaust and how smooth the bike was down low - i could cruise art 2-3k rpm in 3rd gear and when i begin  to accelerate the bike was smooth as butter, while beffore it was chattering and vibrating as diesel car in wrong gear.
Still, i was not hearing much difference from the bigger airboot, but it was very gentle and smooth with the throttle. Then i tried to open 1/2-3/4 throttle while on 3k-4k and i heart the roar of the beast Evil Smile
The intake sound was stronger than the exhaust!
Opening the throttle at 5k was giving instant kick - no hesitation, no delay.
The bike runs better for sure.....how much better i will see when i hit the track.


There is one thing that i noticed, which seemed strange - when i get back from the ride, the oil level was over the MAX and very close to the top of the "screen"(if you call the tube  screen).
It was raining while i was getting back to the garage, so i was riding slow and the engine temp was about 75'C, not sure how this affects the oil level since it should be check as engine in working temp - 90'C.
I thought the guy, who changed the oil has overfileld it, but i see  about 400ml leff in the oil bottle, so there not more than 3.6l in the bike.
Letting the bike cool 5-10min dropped the leve a couple of millimeters, but still way over the MAX level.
I was looking at the oil lever with the bike on back paddock stand, but getting the two wheel on the ground had minimal to no effect.
Should i get some oil out with a syrgine?


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yeah suck some out



you’ll notice the punch out of corners with those mods , it’s so surprising


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I did a track day last Sunday, first one for this year.

I have put duoble bubble screen(not sure if i already mentioned it) and it is worth every penny!
Going on the highway to the track was a lot easier and effortless compared to before - a lot less wind hitting my head and no issues when moving my head to check the mirrors, while before it was quite hard to achieve.

Bike feels a lot smother on the low revs now, no chatter or hesitation on cruising at 2-3k rpm in any gear.

On the track it felt good - no issues or drawbacks.
No sure if i felt much more power in the midrange, but it was pulling smoothly at all revs.
On time at first laps i hit the throttle harder and the front lifted, causing a little headshake when getting back on the ground, but the steering damper worked it out and it was nothing to warry about. However, i thing this made me be a lot more gentle on the throttle.
I was making 1:20-1:22 times, similar than last trackday and one time 1:19.73, while my best time before was 1:19.71, so the same, but i was not so consistent.
Not sure if it was the traffic(there were quite a lot bikes in my group) or becuase the bike was pulling harde, i was getting sooner on the brakes.....to add on that the new pads made the brakes even better so i was braking sooner with more stopping power Confused
I could go off the brake way before the apex, but was keeping little braking to have weight on the front.
Looking at the data from the RaceChrono, i was at 175-180 at the straight, while before i was 180-190km/h....beleive it was more due to early stopping then lack of power.
I had again a couple of missed shifts - i guess i get lazy at my shifts, so in 3-4th session they start to appear.
It is quite scary, becuase at the end of short straight i need to downshift 3rd to 2nd before S-turn, no brakes and when i miss the shift and hit false neutral the bike is unstoppabele and heading to the gravelPinch
So i loose time again, because i got scared and do the downshift earlier and loose 10-15km/h top speed(i did 125-130 while was time it was 140-150).

Overall i am happy.
This was firts time i used tyre warmers and it is good that i did not loose any laps for getting heat in the tyres. I had ti trim some of the chain guard to get them in with the 190/55 tyre.

Things to work on on the bike - may be check if i can get the shifting mechanism  work better.
Nothing more on the bike, just me and my riding skills.


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Looking at the data from the RaceChrono, it does make sense that the bike is better in acceleration and stopping power.

1 RED is the best lap from last year
2 BLUE is this year best lap

I know that top speed is less, but Acceleration and Decceleration are about 0.5s better.


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