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    Posted: 30 Aug 2015 at 20:15
Currently on the ferry back from the IOM, it's been an interesting trip over but my personal issues were overshadowed today by a big crash on the mountain near black hut.
At 11am  I was just getting my gear on to go for a final couple of passes over the mountain before loading the bike in the van, when the radio news informed me the mountain was closed due to a nasty accident.
very little info available at the mo but 2 riders died and the road was apparently very badly damaged in the ensuing fire ball, the mountain was still closed when we left for the ferry.
http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/isle-of-man-news/two-riders-killed-in-black-hut-crash-1-7435692
If I hadn't had a second pot of tea I would have been on the mountain at the time of the incident, also the Black hut is just up the road a little from where Mark (redrat) crashed at the TT, makes you think !!!

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Not good news.

Always said it wouldn't happen to me and crash and shut the road but it did


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bad news indeed.
cant wait to go to the tt next year but in a way,
im glad the family is coming so i have to go by car tbh.

otherwise i doubt itd end well.
my brother was out on a ride the other day and the road was closed,
said he could see a rider in the road with a sheet over him.
when he got home,it turns out it was his best mate and best man from his wedding,
hit a harley davidson head on on his fireblade.

r.i.p lost brothers and sisters.
everytime its sunny and you hear the ambulances out it makes you steady down a bit.
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Last time I was at the TT was in 2013, practice week on the mountain was fine, race week was twice as busy and there was an awful lot of idiotic riding. I kept off the course on mad sunday and rode the mountain early in the day, but unfortunately some people just lose the run of themselves when faced with no speed limits.
Booked for 2016 so cant wait, but if I got a free VIP ticket to the races I wouldent go without  a bike.
RIP and thoughts with families of those killed.
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Originally posted by Eyore Eyore wrote:

Last time I was at the TT was in 2013, practice week on the mountain was fine, race week was twice as busy and there was an awful lot of idiotic riding. I kept off the course on mad sunday and rode the mountain early in the day, but unfortunately some people just lose the run of themselves when faced with no speed limits.
Booked for 2016 so cant wait, but if I got a free VIP ticket to the races I wouldent go without  a bike.
RIP and thoughts with families of those killed.

this is the main reason I gave up going to the TT a few years ago, back in the late 80s early 90s most of the course was de restricted, now only the mountain and a couple of other short sections(the cronk and Quarry bends) are free from speed limits this inevitably means that rather than been spread around the full 37 miles those wishing to exploit the speed limit free environment focus their attention on the mountain course from Ramsey to Douglas, and it gets pretty busy !!! Even with the one way system you really do not to be totally aware of what is going on around you, small bikes, fast bikes, very fast bikes, and now according to mate of mine over there quite a few very fast cars are making the trip, with lots of Porches, Lamborghinis and Ferraris etc all vying for road position. But by far the most dangerous things on the road are the inexperienced riders on mega fast bikes( s1000rr,late model zx10s, R1s etc) they come flying past at warp speed and then realize they don't actually know where the road goes, the resulting panic braking as a knock on effect to those following, it can be pretty hairy to say the least.
Unfortunately the continued success of the Manx/Classic TT mean the roads are getting ever busier, there's talk of introducing a one way system as per TT but there's resistance from some locals but I think they will have to do it or the casualties will mount, this would put pressure on the viability of both the TT and Manx GP festivals, hopefully sense will prevail and it will continue, unfortunately it is (like many things) the arrogant few who spoil it for the many, any future restrictions etc will be a direct result of the behaviour of these individuals.
I accept it is very tempting when faced with an iconic piece of road with no speed limits to go a little crazy, but many forget this road is only a race track when the racing is on the rest of the time (one way or not) it's a normal road, if people considered this a little then may be there would be fewer incidents and everyone could have a great time and most importantly get home to their families.      
     
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I love the Isle of Man iv been the last 5 years but iv learnt to always go full week of practice and couple of race days as race week the Isle of Man turns nasty (too busy)
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Originally posted by budd budd wrote:

Originally posted by Eyore Eyore wrote:

Last time I was at the TT was in 2013, practice week on the mountain was fine, race week was twice as busy and there was an awful lot of idiotic riding. I kept off the course on mad sunday and rode the mountain early in the day, but unfortunately some people just lose the run of themselves when faced with no speed limits.
Booked for 2016 so cant wait, but if I got a free VIP ticket to the races I wouldent go without  a bike.
RIP and thoughts with families of those killed.

this is the main reason I gave up going to the TT a few years ago, back in the late 80s early 90s most of the course was de restricted, now only the mountain and a couple of other short sections(the cronk and Quarry bends) are free from speed limits this inevitably means that rather than been spread around the full 37 miles those wishing to exploit the speed limit free environment focus their attention on the mountain course from Ramsey to Douglas, and it gets pretty busy !!! Even with the one way system you really do not to be totally aware of what is going on around you, small bikes, fast bikes, very fast bikes, and now according to mate of mine over there quite a few very fast cars are making the trip, with lots of Porches, Lamborghinis and Ferraris etc all vying for road position. But by far the most dangerous things on the road are the inexperienced riders on mega fast bikes( s1000rr,late model zx10s, R1s etc) they come flying past at warp speed and then realize they don't actually know where the road goes, the resulting panic braking as a knock on effect to those following, it can be pretty hairy to say the least.
Unfortunately the continued success of the Manx/Classic TT mean the roads are getting ever busier, there's talk of introducing a one way system as per TT but there's resistance from some locals but I think they will have to do it or the casualties will mount, this would put pressure on the viability of both the TT and Manx GP festivals, hopefully sense will prevail and it will continue, unfortunately it is (like many things) the arrogant few who spoil it for the many, any future restrictions etc will be a direct result of the behaviour of these individuals.
I accept it is very tempting when faced with an iconic piece of road with no speed limits to go a little crazy, but many forget this road is only a race track when the racing is on the rest of the time (one way or not) it's a normal road, if people considered this a little then may be there would be fewer incidents and everyone could have a great time and most importantly get home to their families.      
     
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