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    Posted: 02 Oct 2016 at 19:43
Hey all, I got a Gen2 RSV that dies for no obvious reason after about an hour or so of riding. Looking at various forums and threads, I'm going to replace the fuel pump and filter. Apparently the unit is cooled by the fuel, and when the fuel heats up it will fail the pump. In addition to that, a litany of clamp failures and other hose issues can be found on the forums.  So I'm gonna fix it myself but have never done this before and hope to get some tips!

I purchased a fuel pump and filter from fuelperformance.co.uk. I've recieved my parts here:
Fuel Pump, came as shown but with a white hose, not black. The clamps are cheap worm drives I don't think I'll be using them.

Fuel filter which does not have provisions to screw the ground lead, like the stock fuel filter does. Does anyone know how to deal with this?

I've also been given a piece of in take fuel hose to run from the filter to the nipple on the plate you mount to the tank.

I've purchased "fuel injector" clamps, they are a seamless time, I wanted to use Oetiker clamps but they are a huge pain in the ass to find it looks like. So I've purchased some of these style from Halfords which I hope work fine.


I've got my tank ready to pull off, have had a couple face fulls of GAZOLEAN, deliscious. Does anyone have any other tips to ensure great success?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Mikey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Oct 2016 at 15:41
I attached the ground lead using a large worm type clamp. In my understanding, this ground lead is for static charge - possibly not needed at all.

Cannot comment whether your hose clamps are round enough to be able to fully seal the junctions.
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Good tip, I was wondering about doing just that with the ground!!  Yeah I would rather have the clip type but yeah, just to hard to find. I'll crank these down and hope for the best!
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I also attached the ground lead with a stainless jubilee type clip.  Seems all good.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote constant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Oct 2016 at 14:40
i changed the fuel filter on my gen 1 mille with a plastic nissan one with no earth on it and have not noticed any thing plus a got the metal tank 
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Never heard of one igniting due to static buildup so perhaps not needed?


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i've got the Jubilee setup going and it seems like it will be fine. What's NOT going to be fineis that the fuel filter that connects to the fuel pump doesn't fit inside the box.

I ordered from fuel performance and it's supposed to be for this bike, but for sure the fuel filter...while I probably could jam it all in there I don't think that's a good idea? I will search out the Aprilia part I guess, wondering if it's possible to clean the old one, it looks pretty gnarly and I'd like to replace as much as I can while it's all apart. You can see in the middle inset, how the stock filters mount fits inside a notch on an extruded piece of the fuel pump mounting plate. and this is something the aftermarket pumps filter absolutely can not do.  

Certainly this is a part I need, and can't just "cram the other one in" can i? Looking for any other option that to find this no doubt hard to locate specific filter. BOOOOOO 






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ok just to follow up, seems like the pump from fuelperformance works fine, and the filter from demon tweaks works fine as well.

I got it all buttoned up, and she started fine, quick ride around the parking garage was fine. So as long as all the various clams and crap hold up (this seems to be the only issue with this repair...don't use Jubilee..etc.) and I tightened everything up enough should be good to go.

Now if this fixes the problem, of cutting out on my ass after the bike warms up....we'll soon find out!

But it's not a hard repair, anyone can do it and the above parts seems to fit. again, Demon Tweaks for the internal tea bag strainer. I had to dremel it just a smidgin' to make it all slide together nice but no big deal.
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well took a longer ride today and the bike cut out on me and would not even think of a restart, it's turning over but clearly it's not getting any fuel.  So I'm gonna take off the gas cap and see if I can see anything, but for sure one of the 4 clamps you use to hold the entire thing together has come undone.

are there torque tighning numbers for hose clamps? I didn't use Jubilee, I used "fuel injection" clamps from Halfords, which are more seamless than Jubilee, but not as great as the Otiker (sp) clamps.

Does anyone have any top tips for just how tight to make those clamps on the various fuel hoses in the fuel pump assembly?

Additionally I was wondering if there is any ideas on how to mitagate these hoses from coming undone in addition to the clamps.  If you could lets say "wire" the fuel filter to the base so that it can never move beyond the length of hose between the filter and base, even if a clamp came loose it wouldnt be able to move enough for the hose to pop off....etc...any ideas?
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Originally posted by erics75218 erics75218 wrote:

well took a longer ride today and the bike cut out on me and would not even think of a restart, it's turning over but clearly it's not getting any fuel.  So I'm gonna take off the gas cap and see if I can see anything, but for sure one of the 4 clamps you use to hold the entire thing together has come undone.

are there torque tighning numbers for hose clamps? I didn't use Jubilee, I used "fuel injection" clamps from Halfords, which are more seamless than Jubilee, but not as great as the Otiker (sp) clamps.

Does anyone have any top tips for just how tight to make those clamps on the various fuel hoses in the fuel pump assembly?

Additionally I was wondering if there is any ideas on how to mitagate these hoses from coming undone in addition to the clamps.  If you could lets say "wire" the fuel filter to the base so that it can never move beyond the length of hose between the filter and base, even if a clamp came loose it wouldnt be able to move enough for the hose to pop off....etc...any ideas?


This happened to me mate about 1000 miles after replacing my hose that was split. I used the oetiker clamps and theý were on tight but it still came off.

I think it was down to the fuel softening the hose which made it pop off. When I put the clamps on again I doubled some of them up where I could fit them on and had no bother since.

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What do you mean doubled up? Interesting about the clamps you used, I think that the issue isn't the type of clamp, it's just as you said. You tighten them beyond what seems reasonable, it goes in the tank and after a few heat cycles probably need to be tightened up a bit more once things grow/shrink/soften.

The hose I'm using inside my tank is supposed to be fuel proof, I didn't check to see via some printed numbers if it was.  

This entire design seems half assed, I wish they would just have done some molded mount w/gromet the fuel filter attaches to the plate with instead of this tiny piece of hose with 2 clamps. 
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Originally posted by erics75218 erics75218 wrote:

What do you mean doubled up? Interesting about the clamps you used, I think that the issue isn't the type of clamp, it's just as you said. You tighten them beyond what seems reasonable, it goes in the tank and after a few heat cycles probably need to be tightened up a bit more once things grow/shrink/soften.

The hose I'm using inside my tank is supposed to be fuel proof, I didn't check to see via some printed numbers if it was.  

This entire design seems half assed, I wish they would just have done some molded mount w/gromet the fuel filter attaches to the plate with instead of this tiny piece of hose with 2 clamps. 


Sorry should have explained that better. It was the big hose that had popped off, not the little piece. So I used 4 clamps instead of 2 just to make sure it wasn't going to come off again. I'll be taking my tank off the bike shortly anyway so I'll double check.

I used submersible fuel line aswell but don't think it takes much to blow the hose off once it's slightly loose or softened up.
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My new fuel pump came with a new "accordion" hose between the pump and filter. It's a bit different than the Aprilia one. The new one is a much harder plastic, not the ultra flexible almost membrane like one that Aprilia uses. I like the Ape' one better because I feel it can deform better under the pressure of the clamp v.s. the harder plastic one.

The "head" of the male joints isn't very pronounced as well, there could be much more of a lip for the clamp to pass on it's way off the pump/filter/base. The rounded smooth "head" isn't gonna put up much resistance if there is give/deformation enough of the hose to slip on by!
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The genuine hose is hard to come by,plenty of sources sell ' in tank fuel hose' but it's not the real deal.

The thicker the wall thickness the softer and more pliable it gets when submerged,so a clamp that is tight enough when new could soon go soft after a few months and relieve some of the clamping pressure


I think BMW do a kit of hoses,filter and clamps that will swap into our bikes for a very reasonable price


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i got all my stuff from Fuel Performance.com, they seem to care and so Im confident that hose is ok. We'll find out today as I'm going to drain the tank and pull that sh*t off.

It's strange to me, there is no plug and play for this. It took me tons of web time to figure out all the parts and what is the high risk area of the repair (CLAMPS ARGH) etc.
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Originally posted by erics75218 erics75218 wrote:

i got all my stuff from Fuel Performance.com, they seem to care and so Im confident that hose is ok. We'll find out today as I'm going to drain the tank and pull that sh*t off.

It's strange to me, there is no plug and play for this. It took me tons of web time to figure out all the parts and what is the high risk area of the repair (CLAMPS ARGH) etc.


How do you mean?   It's hardly a difficult thing to do.

If you mean a kit of parts then BMW among others do that as well,also plenty of info online regarding  the pitfalls of non standard clamps and fuel line.

The main thing to realise is that the standard Aprilia parts like hoses and even tanks are now not fit for purpose due to the fuel composition  changing.


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ok, well my problem was the clamp at the very end of the line...final clamp fuel pump hose into mounting plate.  Looks like maybe I didn't put the clamp far enough toward the base plate. All the other clamps look fine.  So 2nd try hopefully will be ok.  Getting pretty quick at doing this job though!!!!
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I just mean it seems like a common problem so I thought a "kit" would be easy to source since the factory stuff is super expensive. I got my pump from one place, clamps from another and strainer/filter from yet another. 

That's all I mean, it is easy enough to repair for sure.
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AF1 does seem to have it all, minus the actual fuel pump itself.  Which is a generic item, mine is from FP but I'm sure it's the same as at least a dozen other uses.
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Nope,I'm talking about genuine BM parts from the dealer

I found the info on AF1 I think when I researched it for my bike

I can't remember what model it was for but I think it was for one of the newer boxer twins,not sure though

It was for the U shaped corrugated pipe.,new fuel filter and short final pipe with all clips (and they weren't worm drive type)

Guaranteed to be the real deal for in tank use ( well as much as increased Ethanol allows) they listed part numbers and it was a very reasonable price given their reputation for quality

I would have gone down that route but I had a nearly new new pump /filter assy to hand anyway so I just bought a length of the proper spec Cohline R10 fuel tube/a handful of oetiker clamps and fitted that.

Well actually I reused the OEM spring clamps in the end

Never had any issues since so hopefully that sorted the issue of the lower hose disintegrating in the fuel


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Originally posted by erics75218 erics75218 wrote:

ok, well my problem was the clamp at the very end of the line...final clamp fuel pump hose into mounting plate.  Looks like maybe I didn't put the clamp far enough toward the base plate. All the other clamps look fine.  So 2nd try hopefully will be ok.  Getting pretty quick at doing this job though!!!!




Took the tank off this afternoon. Here's how I did mine. Checked and the hoses are still clamped solid.
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